Women in the Majority in Hellfire

Bukhari (Ref: 1.301) Narrated AbuSa ‘id Al-Kudri: 

Once Allah’s Messenger went out of the Musalla (to offer prayer) of Id-al-Adha. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked “Why is it so, O Allah’s Messenger?” He replied “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Messenger ! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during the menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion”. 

Explanation 

There are two very similar, yet different, Ahadith both narrated by Abu Said al-Khudri on this issue. Compare this Hadith with this another one: 

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri 

On ‘Id ul Fitr or ‘Id ul Adha Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) went out to the Musalla. After finishing the prayer, he delivered the sermon and ordered the people to give alms. He said, “O people! Give alms.” Then he went towards the women and said. “O women! Give alms, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were you (women).”The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is the reason for it?” He replied, “O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. O women, some of you can lead a cautious wise man astray.” Then he left. And when he reached his house, Zainab, the wifeof Ibn Masud, came and asked permission to enter It was said, “O Allah’s Apostle! It is Zainab.” He asked, ‘Which Zainab?” The reply was that she was the wife of Ibn Mas’ub. He said, “Yes, allow her to enter.” And she was admitted. Then she said, “O Prophet of Allah! Today you ordered people to give alms and I had an ornament and intended to give it as alms, but Ibn Masud said that he and his children deserved it more than anybody else.” The Prophet replied, “Ibn Masud had spoken the truth. Your husband and your children had more right to it than anybody else.” 

Both of these Ahadith seem to be talking about the same incident; yet, the other one does not have the Prophet saying that the reason for his statement is the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man or because of menses. It is obvious that in the second Hadith, the Prophet (s.a.w) is not talking about all the women but just those women who curse frequently and who are ungrateful to their husbands. In fact, he is addressing those particular women and nowhere is it apparent that he is talking about all the women. So, the first Hadith, which you have quoted, is more likely is a distortion of the second Hadith. Another thing that I wanted to point out was that the heading of the Hadith that you have quoted was “Menses”. Could it be that the Hadith is referring to the issue of PMS, which has now been proven to be a biological reality?

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5 thoughts on “Women in the Majority in Hellfire

  1. Herman December 18, 2013 at 3:51 pm Reply

    i DARE THE WRITER TO EXPLAIN WHY THOSE WHO BOTH “CURSE FREQUENTLY” AND ARE “UNGRATEFUL TO THEIR HUSBANDS” DESERVE TO BE TORTURED WITH FIRE.
    Does any civilized nation in the world even put in jail those who curse frequently and are ungrateful to their husbands? Why is the god of Muhammad’s imagination so BARBARIC?
    Turning to a different matter, it is striking that when Muhammad calls women (including the author’s own mother) “deficient in intelligence,” the author chooses to let this INSULT go right on by, because at this point in the author’s life, the author believes he needs Muhammad’s god as his own god.

  2. sincereadvisor December 19, 2013 at 3:03 am Reply

    Why is it barbaric? Whether you believe in God or not, people do suffer in this world! They get burned, suffer enormous pain, die of starvation? Why? The entire world is barbaric, right? What are you going to do about it? Whether you like it or not, there is suffering in this world and there will be suffering for many others in the afterlife.

    Women who curse and are ungrateful to their husbands lead them to commit adultery and other sins. That breaks up families and destroys lives of little children, sometimes for generations to come. Why shouldn’t it be punished? And why shouldn’t this warning serve to have a positive influence on women? If this encourages them to behave in a better way, I say we need more Hadiths like that! My mother never cursed and was always grateful. If your mother didn’t, I am sorry. May Allah forgive her.

    God has created suffering to teach and to soften hearts. After suffering there is forgiveness, peace and everlasting joy of paradise.

  3. Herman December 19, 2013 at 5:56 pm Reply

    sincereadvisor, you write that some people in their several decades on earth “suffer enormous pain.” To be sure, some do. But about how many? What proportion of people are in so much pain that they kill themselves? I suspect that the number is relatively small.
    Now compare that number with the billions of people that the god you choose to have will torture simply because they chose not to believe Muhammad, or were ungrateful to husbands, or cursed husbands. Compare the intensity of the pain of those who committed suicide with that of Muhammad’s Hell, where the SKIN REPEATEDLY GETS COMPLETELY BURNED OFF, as people scream in severe agony. And your Allah doesn’t torture for a mere several decades, BUT PERMANENTLY: “Their wish will be to get out of the Fire, but NEVER will they get out therefrom: their penalty will be one that endures” (Koran 5:37).
    Now, sincereadvisor, would you severely torture someone for so much as an entire day for merely being ungrateful and cursing? No, of course, you would not. You are decent, your god is not.
    Yet at this point in your life you want a third-rate god who severely tortures most of humanity forever.
    You can do so much better. Think about it.

  4. sincereadvisor December 20, 2013 at 5:05 am Reply

    Everybody suffers. But Quran has made it clear that you can bear only as much pain as you are capable of. In all the descriptions of hell that I have ever read, whether in the Bible or Quran, nobody appears to be screaming in excruciating pain. Can you give me some examples?

    Obviously, the threshold of pain hell is not going to be the same as here on earth. You are forgetting that people will not have the same body as here on earth. On earth, burning in fire, a person would be toast in two minutes. But in hell, it’s only his skin that gets burned. He doesn’t scream. He does suffer but he doesn’t die.

    If you don’t like hell, then do believe! It’s like not doing your homework and then asking the teacher, are you going to fail me? Am I going to suffer because of this? Why are so cruel?

    Hadiths make it clear that eventually every person will not only come of hell but will have everything that they ever wished for. Even you!

    ‘Abdullah bin Mas’ud, may Allah be pleased with him, reported:
    Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I know the last of the inhabitants of Fire to be taken out therefrom, and the last of the inhabitants of Paradise to enter it. A man will come out of the Fire crawling. Then Allah, the Blessed and Exalted, will say to him: Go and enter Paradise. So he would come to it and it would appear to him as if it were full. He would go back and say: O my Lord! I found it full. Allah, the Blessed and Exalted, would say to him: Go and enter Paradise. He would come and perceive as if it were full. He would return and say: O my Lord! I found it full. Allah would say to him: Go and enter Paradise, for there is for you the like of the world and ten times like it, or for you is ten times the like of this world. He (the narrator) said: He (that man) would ask: Are You making fun of me? or Are You laughing at me, though You are the King? He (the narrator) said: I saw Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) laugh till his front teeth were visible. And it was said: That would be the lowest rank among the inhabitants of Paradise.

    Sahih Muslim : 272

  5. Herman March 13, 2014 at 3:25 pm Reply

    Sincereadvisor, you write: “If you don’t like hell, then do believe!” Now, if a friend of yours told someone something (say, for example, that a donkey had a conversation with Einstein) and that person chose not to believe your friend, would you burn that person’s skin? YES OR NO???

    Let us assume your answer is “no,” that you would consider burning someone for this disbelief to be unjust. SO PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY SOMEONE SHOULD BE BURNED SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT PERSON CHOOSES NOT TO BELIEVE MUHAMMAD.

    One of Muhammad’s “revelations” was that a hoopoe bird returning from a spy mission had a conversation with a guy called Solomon. Another “revelation” was that an ant knew this Solomon by his name, as if they had been formally introduced earlier. Other “revelations” from Muhammad declare that women are inferior to men. Can you at least see a RATIONAL BASIS why someone could refuse to believe Muhammad? Now why should such a person be tormented with fire forever?

    Sinceradvisor, you really deserve a better god than the capricious, wicked third-rate god of Muhammad’s imagination. KNOW THAT YOU CAN STILL BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GOD OF THE UNIVERSE WITHOUT BELIEVING EVERYTHING MUHAMMAD TELLS YOU TO BELIEVE.

    As humanity goes forward, it needs to discard pernicious belief systems lacking in logic that slow human progress and promote discord. Islam with its inherent violence, sexism, and intolerance is one such belief system.

    Spend time thinking all this over.

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